Sunday, 15 February 2015

Dynamical Collapse Theories


Hi everyone! Firstly, many apologies for this being late.

Since we never got around to lecture 5, I have focused this post on the end of lecture 4, namely the third proposed single world interpretation of quantum mechanics: the dynamical collapse theory.

I thought I’d summarise my understanding of this general interpretation, before focusing on a few specific examples, highlighting any problems that I had in interpreting them. Here goes…

Objective Collapse theories, also known as QMSL theories (Quantum Mechanical Spontaneous Localisation), are realistic, indeterministic and fundamentally reject hidden variables. The general idea is that the wave function associated with all sub-atomic particles has some ontological reality, along with a very small but finite probability of collapse. The time scale associated with the collapse of individual particles is thought to be of the order of 108 years.  When an observer makes a measurement using some physical piece of apparatus (be that an eye, or lab equipment etc) then the observed particle becomes entangled with the observing equipment, which will necessarily be a very large collection of atoms >108. The chance of any one of the large collection of particles collapsing is now very high, and since they are entangled, if one collapses so too must all the particles in the system.

Dynamical collapse theories originated out of attempts to get around the measurement problem in quantum mechanics, which inexplicably gives the observer in any system a special position, in that they are solely responsible for the collapse of said system. Such a view, as held in the popular ‘Copenhagen Interpretation’, leaves much room for interpretation in what constitutes an observer or what qualifies as an observation. DCTs neatly remove this issue altogether by attributing the collapse of the wave function to random processes with no contribution by the observer other than providing the measuring equipment.

**As an aside, I was wondering how you might justify the view that particles just so happen to follow a theory of random collapse, but after further thought I realised that there are many examples in physics of this, spontaneous atomic decay in nuclear fission being the most obvious example. I suppose this view still suffers from the issue that Einstein took with QM (god does not play dice) in that it offers no explanation for the basis of the random collapse in the first place, to which the only retort I am aware of, is that this is just fundamentally how the universe operates, and we as humans are not in a position to suppose it should be any other way. Incidentally if anyone has anything to say on this then I would be keen to discuss, as I don’t find it altogether that satisfying.**

Many theories fall under the dynamical collapse umbrella, but as far as I am aware there are two main variations, based on the mechanics of the wave-function collapse:

1.     In the first group the collapse is found ‘within’ the wave-function. I.e. the formula which guides the evolution of the system (the Schrodinger eq), which under normal formulation describes the state of the system as some linear superposition of the basis states, is adjusted in some non-linear manner. This adjustment means the governing equation actually describes the collapse itself. The original GRW paper is a good example of this view.

2.     Evolution of the wave function remains unchanged, with the additional collapse process added in. The most famous example would be the ‘Penrose Interpretation’.

The first variation is the most accepted version of the theory I believe, although it has been modified a little since it’s first inception by GRW in the 80’s. The original paper didn’t respect the symmetries of many particle systems (didn’t conserve parity?), so a modified version of the theory was created, known as CSL (Continuous Spontaneous Localisation), which amends the shortcomings mentioned above.

Despite the many attempts to reconcile dynamical collapse with our present understanding of QM, there remains a fundamental issue with variation 1). Since the collapse occurs from within the wave function, the collapse cannot be complete or else the principle of conservation of energy would be broken. Why this must be is not completely clear to me, so I would like to discuss this tomorrow if possible. A non-complete collapse implies that the wave function has some non-zero amplitudes for states not described by the collapse, and so in theory there is a non zero chance of the system (or particle) simultaneously jumping to another state. This is fairly counter-intuitive and has not been verified by experiment thus far.

I will now discuss the interpretation of the second variation of DCT, namely the ‘Penrose Interpretation’. Penrose theorises that the wave-function collapses to it’s basis states when the space-time curvature of the quantum states attains a significant level, which he speculates to be around 1 graviton, (the hypothesised but yet to be discovered force carrying particle in quantum gravity).

To explain this, let’s consider a solitary particle, which has multiple basis states that it could occupy (eg the position of an electron around an atom). The theory states that each of the electron’s states exists simultaneously, and so the electron creates a gravitational field in all the positions that it can exist according to its basis states. A field intrinsically contains energy, and requires energy to be maintained, thus the larger the mass (energy) of the particle, the higher the required energy that is needed to maintain all the fields that exist curtsey of all the simultaneously existing states. The next step is to say that for a small particle, the energy required is small enough that it can exist as a superposition indefinitely. (I couldn’t find a precise reason for this, but I think you can use the uncertainty principle ∆E∆t>h/2π and say that for a very small mass, the time can be extremely large).

Likewise for larger particles, their super positions require too much energy to simultaneously exist for any significant period of time (again, presumably found from the U-P). Since it would require less energy to maintain one gravitational field than all the countless super positions, Penrose believes that this energy requirement causes larger mass systems to collapse to a single state, with the probability of collapsing to a specific basis state given by the square of the amplitude as usual. Penrose speculates that the transition from macroscopic to the sub-atomic domain would happen at around the mass of a dust particle.

To summarise, both variations of DCT attractively side step the measurement problem, giving no special position to an observer. They also rule out many world theories by holding the collapse to curtail the branching of the wave function, removing unobserved behaviour.

Discussion Points:

Personally I find the Penrose interpretation to be the most attractive of all the interpretations we have seen so far. The Copenhagen interpretation throws up countless issues with the interpretation of what the wave function represents and why observers should be gifted such a special position in the universe.

Variation 1. of the DCT seems a little like GRW have moulded the solution to fit the answer. I don’t like resorting to spontaneous and randomly collapsing wave functions, but as I mentioned previously there are other example in physics of this kind of thing.

I am also rather unclear on how the wave function can have any physical reality, and what that would mean or look like.

If you’ve got to the bottom of this then thanks for staying with me, I’m sure some of this is quite unclear so looking forward to discussing tomorrow!

Best,

Jamie

4 comments:

  1. RE: energy conservation in GRW-style collapses

    I'm not entirely sure what you mean by `complete' collapses, it seems like you mean that during the collapse process the wavefunction collapses to a delta-function ie a `state with definite position' or or during collapse the wavefunction is multiplied by an `infinitely thin Gaussian' (then normalised). But collapses such as these aren't allowed regardless of any considerations of conservation of energy---they aren't allowed because a delta-function wavefunction isn't a permissible state (it isn't square-integrable).

    On the other hand, I think that energy isn't conserved (in general) during GRW-style collapses (ie multiplication by a [position basis] Gaussian then normalisation) regardless of the width of the Gaussian.

    Consider the following example: a particle is initially in the groundstate of some potential well. It undergoes a GRW-style collapse; now, in general, its wavefunction will have changed. The wavefunction must be expressible as a sum of energy eigenstates. Since the wavefunction has changed the possible outcomes of an energy measurement must have changed (from only the groundstate energy to the energies of whatever eigenstates have non-zero amplitudes in the resulting expansion) and furthermore since it was in the groundstate to start with the average energy must have increased.

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  2. Hi Jon, thanks for raising some interesting points.

    By 'complete' collapse I was referring to a collapse that does not have the probability of 1 associated with any one basis state. That is to say, there is a non-zero chance that the particle will jump to a state other than that to which it originally collapsed. Whether the jump can occur simultaneously under the theory, or whether it requires a re-measurement I am unclear about.

    In your first paragraph you seem to be suggesting that there is no such thing as complete collapse in any theory. I'm afraid I don't understand your claim that a delta function is not allowed because it 'isn't square integrable'. A delta function, by definition, will yield 1 if you integrate over the function. The very reason delta functions are used here is that they give a precise position whilst maintaining an integrable area of 1, therefore giving you the probability of 1 to find the particle in the specific state corresponding to the peak of the delta. In my understanding, let's say we measure the position of a particle, thereby collapsing the wave function in the position basis, the only function that gives a definite probability of finding the particle in the state that it has collapsed to is indeed the delta function. So I’m not really sure what you meant by them not being allowed, but maybe I misunderstood you.

    Your point that energy is never conserved in GRW collapses is an interesting one, although I have a few problems accepting your example. You said that the particle is initially in the ground state, but to make such a claim, surely we would have to measure the particle in the first place. Before measurement we surely can't say what state the particle is in, hence the existence of the wave function and the superposition of the ground state and all the energy states forming said wave function. Your example goes onto suggest that the wave function actually moves from being a specific state (the ground state) to becoming some super position of all the energy states, through the process of collapse, but this is the wrong way around. The eigenfunction of the particle goes from being a superposition of the energy states, to being a specific state upon collapse. I think your main point still stands though: if the wave function goes from a general superposition to being a specific state, in all likelihood it has changed in energy. Actually saying that, position and energy are commuting operators, therefore I’m not convinced the wave function would change at all, since the measurement of position should have no bearing on the measurement of energy.

    If the conclusion of this is that no collapse can occur without violating the conservation of energy, then I wonder how we can entertain the theory of collapse in the first place...?

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  3. Thinking further about the issue that energy doesn't appear to be conserved if you collapse the wave function, I think there is a way out. I think a good argument that energy is indeed conserved would say that by measuring the system, we have interacted with it in some meaningful way. This interaction is precisely what has changed the energy of the system. An example would be measuring the energy of a particle by firing photons at it. The photons have necessarily hit the particle we are looking at, and thus influenced it's energy. Thus the energy of the particle may well be conserved, but we will never know since we are only viewing the particle after it's bombardment by our photons.

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  4. Thanks for your post Jamie. From the literature I also found the Penrose interpretation to be the most compelling, and I agree that it seems to provide the most comprehensive account without side stepping some pretty significant difficulties! I was slightly confused by your comment on the conservation of energy though, and to be honest I can't quite follow your discussion with Jon about it. Maybe this will become clearer in class :)

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